. Hoenn FTW. I really don't see the problem. 1 Kartana. Anyone know of an easily accessed hm slave that can learn cut and fly? (And defog too, but it ain't a big deal) I know tropius can learn both, but it comes kind of late in game I thought staravia could, but apparently not. Overall, Tropius is a better Flying HM slave, with access to 5 HMs, Flash, and Sweet Scent; however, Drifblim is the best Flying HM slave you can get early on in-game in Sinnoh. "You either die a noob, or live long enough to see yourself become a hacker. This is why we need HMs back. I'm against a separate list for HM-slaves for that very reason. Other than that I think the rest are interchangeable. Cheats. Fantastic. If you're still waiting for the e-mail, be sure to check your junk/spam e-mail foldersIf you're still waiting for the e-mail, be sure to check your junk/spam e-mail foldersI got lucky enough to get a Tropius through GTS Negotiations for a female Eevee I caught in Castelia City. DangerMouse54 13 years ago #3. Emerald_Melios 7 years ago #9. At high levels you're getting Rare Candies, Full Restores, Heart Scales, Leftovers, PP. i dont have hm slave. Dragonite, Mew, Tropius, Salamence, Giratina, Arceus, Smeargle Surf / Whirlpool / Waterfall / Rock Climb : Blastoise, Golduck, Poliwrath, Omastar, Kabutops, Mew, Feraligatr, Suicune, Swampert. Now usually Tropius and Gyarados are enough. "Mega, I don't need you to defend me. Bibarel (Cut, Waterfall, Surf,. Magikarp. Azumarill can learn the 3 water HMs (Waterfall, Surf, Dive), Rock Smash, and Strength. Swampert is just awesome, Alakazam. there's furret he can learn 5 of those: cut,strength,surf,rocksmash and whirlpool:)For Pokemon SoulSilver Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "HM Slaves >. Jan 2, 2015. The Temporary HM Slave is for Fly and Defog until you can get a Tropius from Pastoria's Great Marsh (Areas 1 & 2). " SW-6321-4362-5535. The only Mon that makes for a better HM slave is Mew, but it's a mythical with limited distribution, so unless you use cheats, you can't get one in any of the games that had HMs. Tropius - Defog, Fly, Strength, Rock Smash. KokyuDosa14 years ago#6. it's the internet >_> - ILikeDesu. According to their overall usefulness, durability, and strength, these Pokémon have been ranked as the top 10 hm slaves. Tropius is more "mainstream" as an HM slave. 5. Anyway I am playing PkM Silver right now, so I thought what Pokemon wold be best for HM slave for gen2 PkM games, or gen3, gen1 ;153;Who, in your opinion, is the best hm slave? I'm using the Shiny gyarados (Rock Smash, Strength, Surf, and Whirlpool) Pokemon Black FC: 2666 1617 9618. themasterpikmin 8 years ago #2. As Fly Users go, only Tropius and Salamence are non-legendaries that learn at least 4 HMs. From Lilycove, Tropius requires backtracking through R120 > Fortree City > R119. Aug 18, 2010. 611 votes, 26 comments. Notify me about new: Guides. I saw a similar set up for gen 4 between tropius and wailmer. HM slaves aren't necessary to progress, but the water HMs feel necessary to have fun. u can find tropius in the great marsh wildley and u should use bibarel ( it can learn every hms except for fly and defog). I used 3 of them in Gen5. Mew is the obvious choice. 4. Whirlpool. Tropius is good as an HM slave. Tropius. Bibarel is the easiest to obtain, and it can learn Cut, Surf, Strength, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Rock Climb. Cut, Surf, and Strength. My most notable examples are probably and Impoleon and the HGSS red gyarados. r/pokemon is an unofficial Pokémon fan community. Who are the Hm Slaves in this game? Pokemon Emerald Version Game Boy AdvanceBidoof/ Bibarel is a common HM slave. I use two as of 4th gen, Bibarel and Tropius. The best HM slaves are Skarmory and Bibarel. If you're looking for the Sword & Shield or Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl, Check out Tropius Pokémon Sword & Shield data. metroidfan987 9 years ago #16. - It has a terrible movepool. At high levels you're getting Rare Candies, Full Restores, Heart Scales, Leftovers, PP. What a nobody says on GameFaqs is irrelevant. Boards. . [deleted] • 4 yr. mister72 14 years ago #6. Shuppet thief. r/pokemon is an unofficial Pokémon fan community. Questions. Except the banana-saurus. Because you must have 8 badges to get a Salamence, Tropius is your winner. He could work, just watch out for ice attacks. You find Tropius on 119, before you have the Fly HM or even access to the badge to use it. Tropius was the GOAT HM slave back in Gen 3, but has fallen into obscurity since. Teach him Sunny Day and Solar Beam. Post Posted: Nov 22, 2009 6:42 pm. . You can get a Bidoof very early in-game, and Bibarel pop up not long after. Cut, Strength, Rock Smash, Fly. Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others. Let's be real, Zigg is hands down the best HM slave. Bibarel and tropius learn all HM's. Tropius has zero competitively useful sets in singles or doubles in pretty much any conceivable format. Since the TC is actually going to use Tropius, I don't see what the HM slave sets have to do with the topic at hand. Nidoking/Furret - Cut, Surf, Strength, Rock Climb/SmashRaikou the Thunder Tiger strikes again. Bibarel, he/she can know all uneccesary HM moves, i havelike 3 bibarels specifically made to be slaves, but with different combinations of HMs. Generally, when they're available, Bibarel and Tropius make superb HM slaves. Switch FC: SW-6466-0014-8328. ago. Pokemon Platinum Version. Best HM slaves? Thread starter hlzwalkie; Start date Apr 12, 2007; 1; 2; Next. Bibarel is god tier HM Slave. Makoscientist 14 years ago #6. I basically just use Marill and sometimes Girafarig (Strength, Rock Smash, Flash) and named them HM-SLAVE/1 and HM-SLAVE/2 respectively. Gen IX Dex. Tbh I'll never regret buying the HM flutes, so nice not having an HM slave. Both learn Cut, Strength, and Rock Smash. I was also thinking about Pikachu, but it doesn't learn Cut. Wingull meanwhile is 'nearer' in R120 or within Lilycove itself, and the OP's original statement was: "I need the NEAREST Pokemon that can learn fly". It evolves from Tropius with high friendship. Azumarril learns Dive, Surf, Rock Smash and Waterfall while hitting hard with Dive and Waterfall. ago. Haha I think I just remembered from the Gyarados + Tropius HM slave pairing in Gen 3. News. So now you need a Dive. Tropius HM slave that can learn 5 of the 7 including fly. 3rd Gen Dex. 2 posts, 7/12 8:50AM. And Chinchou. I've since learned (with some googling and also via this thread) that there are other good choices for HM slave, too, and that Tropius can be used legitimately with the right moveset. Tropius was my favorite HM slave. To me, Intelion takes the place of the classic "6th Grade Boy's Backpack" type character that we already have too much of such as Cinderance, Greninja, Lucario, Zeraora, Zoroark, Charizard, Scizor, etc. Wingull meanwhile is 'nearer' in R120 or within Lilycove itself, and the OP's original statement was: "I need the NEAREST Pokemon that can learn fly". Anyways, there are only 6 HM moves this game. The two together can cover everything, and each of them on their own can learn quite a few. One word. Swampert: Strength, Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb. This Pokémon loves fruit, and eats it continuously. - It's also terrible cause some HMs are terrible moves. ago. Lombre/Ludiculo (save the Leaf Stone if you just want an HM Slave) Technically speaking, you'd need 2 to cover the 6 HMs it can learn (Everything but Cut and Flash) Also, Tropius is found in Routes 118/119, not in the Safari Zone. #10. Board Topics. Bibarel and Tropius. Bibarel by pretty much. 0. The main difference is that Crawdaunt learns Cut, while Ludicolo learns Flash. . Skarmory's Pretty good. Because it's annoying having HM slaves, I cheated a big and traded over the two for my playthrough SoulSilver. Anyone know of an easily accessed hm slave that can learn cut and fly? (And defog too, but it ain't a big deal) I know tropius can learn both, but it comes kind of late in game I. Stats. Ispamedthis-name • 4 yr. What else could you want from them?. It should look something like this snippet: Well, since you don't need the HM slave for the elite 4, I'd say replace it with your best boxed pokemon, and grind everyone up to around level 56 - 58. Hope this. 2. This Pokédex is for Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, HeartGold, SoulSilver. Bidoof: Cut, Rock Smash, Strength, Rock Climb (I think) Yamata_Demon14 years ago#8. ORAS: Sharpedo for water (double the speed has its perks; plus it was powerful to boot), Altaria for Flying, Zigzagoon and Tropius for the other stuff. For Pokemon Diamond Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Good HM Mules??". Tropius is pretty useful. Grass/Dragon would be an awesome type combo, and Tropius already looks like a dragon. customise me! customise me! I wasted a Salamence as my HM Slave. For Pokemon X on the 3DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Tropius: Potential Lost. Tropius: Sweet scent, fly, rock smash, cut Sharpedo: Surf, dive, waterfall, strength (or if you don't care about fast surfing) Gastrodon (suction cups ability) : Surf, dive, waterfall, strength Also honorable mention for Alakazam with flash, teleportTropius, however, is good to have as an HM Slave, so there's one good thing about your team. I like Farfetch'd because he can learn Fly and Cut. Sign in with the following networks. Train a Tangela. Seriously, I have it in my last try and it's level 95 now with EQ, Flamethrower, Fly and Doubleedge and it rocks. ago. but why the hell do you even care about the evs/nature of your fricken hm slaves edit:stefywefy beat me to that . For Pokemon HeartGold Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "The best HM slave". Hi all Just a notice, we recently discovered that someone got into a moderator account and started hard deleting a load of key and legacy threads. Few pokemon get access to Cut, Fly, and Strength/Rock Smash at the same time, and even fewer can also access Flash or Sweet Scent. For Pokemon HeartGold Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "breloom any good in comparison to Tropius?". Top. And maybe some others, I'm not sure, but I am about those since that is the moveset for mine. Well, there's only 6 HM's in BW - Cut, Fly, Surf, Strength, Waterfall, Dive. In D/P/P specifically, you’ve got the options of cut, fly, defog, strength, and rock smash. This is my favourite HM Slave because it works great in conjunction with almost any water Pokemon. ". 729 votes, 65 comments. Erk2225 8 years ago #7. Crawdaunt for, cut, surf, waterfall and dive Tropius for, fly, strength, rock smash, and flash (Flash isn't a HM since Gen III but I needed a fourth move and since it is a helpful one at the rare times you need it, I picked it) What Pokemon. Cut, Strength, Rock Smash, Surf. My main HM slave is my Diamond starter, Empoleon. 4 Greninja. Swampert: Strength, Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb. . ago. Between those, I can get all the utility moves I need on two Pokémon. Tropius is among my favorite HM slaves, but my Meganium was a beast going through the HG/SS metagame recently. Callista08 7 years ago #2. " -- Crazy Horse to catching tropius in emeraldthe only place to catch tropius is route 119 duuhhh. So as I was playing my Platinum today I realized that of all my Pokemon, my Groudon knew Cut, Rock Smash, and Strength, and my Kyogre knew Surf and Waterfall (as well as Dive on Emerald before I migrated it). Use Rotom. png "You may use this, if you either send me an inbox, or credit me, linking to my page. My source shows that a lot of people agree on four good HM users: Bibarel, Skarmory, Tropius, and Rhydon. Reply. Every Pokemon has a use, and Bibarel's is being the HM slave grandmaster. Cons - Swanna isn't that great in battle, due to below average stats in everything except Speed. It has OK stats, but it is better off as an HM slave. Insert any pokemon that can learn Fly and Defog (DPP) at the lowest level possible. . Pancham is pretty good early on, Strength, Cut, Rock Smash and Surf. Two-Face 13 years ago #3. For Pokemon HeartGold Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Best HM Slaves for HG/SS?". If only i wouldn't have wasted time actually looking up Tropius to be 100% sure, lol. Thanks in advance. My most notable examples are probably and Impoleon and the HGSS red gyarados. for instance, What is the best HM slave in Heartgold? 8 Answers. Later On, the best HM slaves are Azumarril and Tropius. Generally, when they're available, Bibarel and Tropius make superb HM slaves. Tropius - cut - fly - flash - strength/rock smash Water Pokemon - surf - dive - waterfall - strength/rock smash *Means that they don't get strength or rock smash, but they get another HM (Tentacool - cut, Chinchou - flash) that Tropius can also learn so Tropius can double up on strength and rock smash and the water can use the other HM. 3rd Gen Dex. The latter being an option if you did not pick mudkip. Ray Rizzo and James Baek did videos about a hard to break Tropius this Gen. The bunches of fruit growing around the necks of Tropius in Alola are especially sweet compared to those in other regions. hm slave; wickedxtanis 13 years ago #1. I never hold more than 1 HM slave with me. What Are HM Slaves in Pokémon? The Pokémon fandom developed the term "HM slave" for creatures you don't really intend to train, but who occupy a slot in your roster for their field-navigating HM (Hidden Machine) techniques. Tropius. Third, plan for the Elite Four. Tropius (Fly, Strength, Rock Smash) (Defog for Sinnoh) 2. mewruler 15 years ago #3 *cough*bibarel and peliper*cough*. Waterfall is also only used in Evergrande City and Victory Road (there are a few. LordTrashSider. Gyarados: Surf, Waterfall, Dive, RockSmash Tropius: Cut, Fly, Strength, Flash Smeargle: Fly, Surf, Dig, Teleport (very useful if you only. Gyarados for surf/waterfall/dive/strength. Tai (Platinum) - 4683 4348 4300. 4 Greninja. Rotom is immune to all of them. 4. So far I like using Linoone. Empoleon: Surf, Rock Climb, Rock Smash, Cut. Jul 26, 2007 #4 yeah he gets cut. Switch FC:SW-4440-8273-6335 name: Koby. . SURF on Greninja. Slugma/Magcargo don't provide any additional utility compared to Camerupt and Magmar, but Slugma is the easiest Flame Body /. Tropius is probably one of the worst options available though. They can both easily be caught pre-elite 4, and between them can learn all 8 HMs. RhydonAvailability is the most important thing for a good HM slave. r/pokemon is an unofficial Pokémon fan community. However, Tropius is probably the best HM slave because it learns Cut, Fly, Strength,. Surf is on my water pokemon (Lapras). As a Grass/Flying-type, it can learn Fly among four other HMs in Cut, Strength, Flash, and Rock Smash. I want Tropius to have a use again so I can just use my old Mew as an HM slave again anyway. At the very least though it still makes for a great HM slave. Second, you want the HM Slaves that complement your party. 3DS Friend Code: 1805-3322-4950. This is the place for most…If only i wouldn't have wasted time actually looking up Tropius to be 100% sure, lol. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. (Not all of these are HM moves but they are still useful for inside caves!) Give Raichu Flash, Dig, Rock Smash, and Strength. jonosaurus • 9 yr. It is also my best Pokemon at level 100, can beat nearly all others, and can 1-hit KO most Pokemon with just one Surf. . Ray Rizzo and James Baek did videos about a hard to break Tropius this Gen. However, Tropius is probably the best HM slave because it learns Cut, Fly, Strength, Rock Smash, and Flash (all the non-water HMs). Feels like a decent compromise. Together they can learn everything and, unlike Skar and Trop, they aren't rare and can be obtained before the E4. I hope you are having a fantastic day! littlebigpiano 12 years ago #4. My main HM slave is my Diamond starter, Empoleon. Wow, an intelligent question on my pokemon boards? Damn, I might just have to help you. She's currently level 49 cause when my current team gets whooped by some lucky high-level wild one, she steps in and saves the day with one powerful Surf. But now I'm in FireRed, who should I use? 3rd November 2004, 03:56 PM #2. Tropius, hands-down. Bibarel + Tropius = good HM slaves, but which moves do I give each?? For Pokemon Platinum Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Bibarel + Tropius = good HM slaves, but. Gotta give thanks to Tropius. Zigzagoon is also a good HM slave, and he's found in ORAS and XY. Between Tropius and a water-type, you can get all 8 HMs. To carry 8 HM moves at once, the best HM slaves are Tropius and Swampert. Bibarel and Tropius, perfect synergy of HM slave. Tropius isn't a particularly competitive pokemon for battling, but if you lived in the Hoenn region, a Tropius would be such an insanely practical pokemon partner. ago. The egg cycles of these pokemon are 25 (6,169–6,425 steps). 1 of 2 Go to page. Tauros is an excellent candidate for TM Slave 1; he learns, Surf, Strength, Whirlpool, Rock Smash, and Rock Climb. But you can't get Tropius till post-game unless you have some other version. Cut. There isn't a single mandatory cut tree though IIRC so strength would be better on a "I want to never get stuck and need to backtrack". "One does not sell the earth upon which the people walk. It is the final form of Tropius. ago. Not an optimal Gyarados by any means, but still a highly usable HM slave for the in-game as well as a solid in-game water type for your team. )-Sliced. Well, since you don't need the HM slave for the elite 4, I'd say replace it with your best boxed pokemon, and grind everyone up to around level 56 - 58. View. or create a new account Register; Sign in with:Aerodactyl can learn every HM in the game except Rock Climb, and Golduck can learn every HM except Cut and Fly. Yeah, it's not very useful in battle with those moves, but as long as you have Pickup it's a constant source of items that you can, at the very least, sell. BIBARELL IS HM GOD!!! but it can't learn flash, as OP specified. What is the best hm slave for FireRed? Well not every Pokemon can learn all the hm moves, try tropius. Use him ingame as a sunnybeamer and he'll do fine. knows false swipe, soak, spore and ingrain. The name Tropius should be Borelius or Borealius for the variant. I generally used Linoone, since Pickup still makes it useful on the team, and Pelipper. around 150 threads have been lost dating back to 2007 and some. Bibarel can learn them all except Fly and Defog, and paired with a Tropius or Skarmory, all 8 can be covered. Anyways, I think there COULD be a lot less HM's. Magcargo ((HM Support Ability: Flame Body EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 SpD Careful Nature - Rock Smash - Strength - Will-O-Wisp - Stockpile HM SLAVE Pelipper Ability: Keen Eye - Fly - Surf J Smeargle (can learn everything) Dragonite (Fly Waterfall Streght etc etc) Golduck (Flash, Surf etc etc) Zigzagoon Level: 100Eww dont put HMs on your good pokemon A bunch of people, myself included, have an "HM Slave" in our parties that just sits there and uses all the HMs like Cut, Rock Smash, etc that are horrible move-wise. Upon starting the game, Patterrz had these three randomized starters: Manetric, Cubone &. roflcopter9001 • 9 yr. Bidoof evolves into Bibarel at level 15, making him the most versatile HM slave. Please don't mention mew, I don't have one, but any two that are great HM slaves would be much appreciated thanks. ive got two smeargles trained up: one as an hm slave, and the other is the one i use to catch pokes. Reply reply falinangel505 • My friend just explained it to me in the 5 minutes it took my comment cooldown to reset. Pure water Samurott is just a really good add to your team anyway, and the water HMs are strong in battle, so you might as well use. After all, you need someone to use all of those hidden machines. - Rayquaza_man7. Zigzagoon is a good HM slave in the beginning. The best HM slave combo is: Tropius-Cut-Fly-Strength-Rocksmash Psyduck-Surf-Dive-Waterfall-Flash I was wondering is Tropius any good in game? meh. ago. Rock Smash. I plan to buy the Ocarinas for the other HMs (Flash, Waterfall, Dive, etc) so only one of my pokemon slot is reserved to the Tropius slave. BANANYAN is a randomized Pokémon that debuted in Patterrz's 2 Hour Pokémon Emerald challenge livestream, which streamed live on July 2nd 2021. " Mousse9 8 years ago #4. " - Xanoe Rules. knows false. Tropius has Strength, Cut, Fly, Rock Smash. Try being informed instead of just opinionated. Ispamedthis-name • 4 yr. Something about Water Tera, Leech Seed/Protect,. Imo togekiss is excellent if u got a serene grace togepi. - The amount of grinding you. 5. Then you just need any water type that gets Surf/Waterfall/Dive and maybe Flash/Secret Power for good measure!This, normally, includes two pokemon that I use as slaves, because during the whole adventure, I like that they get all the HMs. "Why isn't there a briefcase with four million dollars in bearer bonds handcuffed to your drinking arm?"Like a thought parasite. You can't it is a hoenn Pokemon you have to trade with somebody who has a Pokemon emerald, Sapphire or ruby game card or you can get it by using GameShark codes. you can just buy them on gtl too. ago. This in turn will. or create a new account Register; Sign in with:For Pokemon Emerald Version on the Game Boy Advance, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "best hm slaves?". . Smiley-Fakemon on DeviantArt Smiley-FakemonFor Pokemon Platinum Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "hm slaves u use" - Page 2. Any sites that say they can are using old information. . Its moves are all HMs. Disturbed1314 years ago#3. However, Tropius is probably the best HM slave because it learns Cut, Fly, Strength, Rock Smash, and Flash (all the non-water HMs). there's something wrong with you if you have a dragonite HM slave though. ago. It was just Linoone for a while, but I brought in Ludicolo for Dive and Waterfall. You can say "ass" on GameFAQs. TM/HM Move Type Category TM05 Roar: TM06 Toxic: TM10 Hidden Power: TM11 Sunny Day: TM15 Hyper Beam: TM17 Protect:Hi all Just a notice, we recently discovered that someone got into a moderator account and started hard deleting a load of key and legacy threads. Stev019 8 years ago #6. Sharpedo is objectively the best. While I was doing that I realized he. Cut. The only Mon that makes for a better HM slave is Mew, but it's a mythical with limited distribution, so unless you use cheats, you can't get one in any of the games that. A tropaion ( Greek: τρόπαιον, Latin: tropaeum ), from which the English word, "trophy", is derived, was a monument erected to commemorate a victory over one's foes by the. O. I might have to give Meganium the edge, though. Bibarel and Tropius. 0m. I don't get why some people only catch Tropius for an HM slave. Ludicolo - Leech Seed, Surf, Sub/Protect/Rain Dance, Ice Beam Vileplume - Sludge Bomb, Leech Seed, Razor Leaf/Giga Drain, Sleep Powder Breloom: Leech Seed, Sky Uppercut, Spore, filler Of course, any set is decent ingame, but that's what I recommend. When you can find Tropius, get one. 3. 1. that's about it. PSN: LARTCHEVEQUE. If you're still waiting for the e-mail, be sure to check your junk/spam e-mail foldersI had an HM Slave Metapod with Cut. Zigzagoon covers the early HMs and Tentacool covers all Water type HMs. 5th Gen Dex. Surf or waterfall goes on your waterpokémon. 2 Ludicolo. You can't it is a hoenn Pokemon you have to trade with somebody who has a Pokemon emerald, Sapphire or ruby game card or you can get it. " - Malcolm X. Pokemon Emerald Version. While I was doing that I realized he also would. Like Ludicolo, Crawdaunt can also learn six out of the eight HMs in the game. I usually use him backed up by a Gyarados, Wailord or something similar. you ev train you hm slaves? well tropius and bibbarel are good tropius: fly, defog, cut, i forgot. Fretka wrote:Magikarp. Swampert: Strength, Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb.